yendi: (Mr. Met)
yendi ([personal profile] yendi) wrote2009-08-14 08:10 am

Well, it's finally happened

Native New Yorker or not, I've never been a Giants fan (my hopeless causes instinct has long pointed me towards the Jets). But now that Michael Vick is an Eagle, I'll be rooting for the Giants.

In fact, I'll be rooting for them to play against the Eagles like they did against the Redskins on November 18, 1985.

Of course, the NFC East has always been my least favorite division, anyway, as I've long hated both the Redskins and the Cowboys, and I wasn't exactly an Eagles fan before they got the Dog Torturer as a QB. But now I have to root for the 'Skins and 'Boys against the Eagles, too.

[identity profile] feste-sylvain.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
With any luck, the Cowboys/Eagles game will leave no survivors.

[identity profile] feste-sylvain.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
...with Donovan McNabb limping past the bloody bodies, breaking the 0-0 tie, spiking the ball just as the clock runs down to 0:05...

That'd be awesome!

my God, it even scans!

[identity profile] mgrasso.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Don-o-van, Don-o-van...
ckd: small blue foam shark (Default)

[personal profile] ckd 2009-08-14 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
"If anyone needs me, Comic Sans will be over here!"

rambling and mixed emotions from Philadelphia

[identity profile] coffeehouse.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Initially I was very pissed that Vick was reinstated, let alone having the Eagles pick him up.
But, what about second chances?
So I am very mixed on this.
If someone was never raised to treat all living things with respect and has surrounded himself with other ignorant and cruel people, but is then yanked out of that and educated and has done time and community service, do we continue to demonize this person, the Scarlet A on their chest for all time? Or do we watch them and encourage them to be a productive, tax-paying member of society, keeping a close eye out, but allowing them to move on?

I was raised with pets, that pets were sentient beings and equal to us in all ways.

I am appalled at what he's done and did for an extended period of time without any sort of conscious thought that these beings were his wards just as his children are.
I have a hard time believing that he truly regrets anything except getting caught.
But at the same time, I have to allow him the room to grow and learn and atone.

It will be interesting to see how his children turn out.


Also, Philly has such a rep of being a thug city, that this just seems like a really bad joke told in an LA comedy club.

Re: rambling and mixed emotions from Philadelphia

[identity profile] coffeehouse.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you.

Re: rambling and mixed emotions from Philadelphia

[identity profile] ultra-lilac.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree with you.
Dog fighting isn't like neglect through ignorance. There's no way you could get into that and not see that it causes horrific pain and suffering.
I guess you could be raised in an environment where you were numb to that, but why say that's an OK way to be by refusing to punish the people involved?

Re: rambling and mixed emotions from Philadelphia

[identity profile] thegreatjohnzo.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
But what about cockfighting in the dominican republic? i'm not saying it's "better" only that its in the same realm and everyone treats it as lesser. Is it because chickens are dumb as hell and can't hug you like a dog can?

And while everyone talks about how it's a second chance thing, i don't think that's the right way to go thinking about this. I mean, he did serve 18 months or so in prison, and I'm relatively sure that he's not going to do this again as he doesnt want to get kicked out of the NFL and reviled again, so i don't think this is a chances thing so much as rehabilitation.

granted, my lack of understanding towards the prison system could be biasing my beliefs, or it could be my relative lack of care towards Philly in general, but if he has served his time, shouldn't he be allowed to play again? He's going to have this stigma for the rest of his life either way though.

and in the same realm as Vick, what about Donte Stallworth?

[identity profile] ellyssian.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't have to root for the Cowboys.

Although it would have been great if they kept T.O. and if they took Vick... then all my dislike could be placed on my least favorite team.

[identity profile] featheredfrog.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
how about rooting for anyone who "happens, accidentally" to fall across his knees?

cleats first, naturally.
Edited 2009-08-14 15:28 (UTC)

[identity profile] spoothbrush.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
They should just go all-out and sign Pacman Jones, too.

[identity profile] rain-herself.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, at least one good thing came out of it.