Super Happy Fun in trouble (again)?
Apr. 23rd, 2007 08:26 amJust received the following email from the Super Happy Fun mailing list:
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subject [super_happy_fun] A Threat from Japanese New Wave dot com
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Got this nice letter today from the guy that used to run
JapanesNewWave.com, charlie trax.
>>Sorry, but I don't have the time for games:
Attached is the Engish version of a Japanese letter.
The letter plus CD-ROM and additional material will be in the mailbox
on Wednesday morning, if the website isn't down.<<
-----------------------------------------------
April 25, 2007
Motion Pictures Copyrights Department
JASRAC
3-6-12 Uehara
Shibuya-ku
Tokyo
151-8540 Japan
Junichi Shinsaka
Secretary General
Motion Picture Producers Association of Japan, Inc.
Takeshi Inagaki
Secretary General
Association of All Japan TV Program Production Companies (ATP)
Dear Sirs,
We would like to direct your attention to this US-American website,
where the most severe copyright infringements concerning virtually
every Japanese DVD production company takes place.
http://www.superhappyfun.com
Attached is a CD-ROM which contains a list of 338 titles which are
protected under Japanese copyright laws, cloned copies of which are
illegally sold through the above mentioned website. Every entry in
this list provides two links, one leading to the US website' s entry
of the title, and the other to the Japanese original DVD as it is sold
in Japan.
As an evidence, that these titles are illegal DVD-R clones of Japanese
original DVDs, we attach 2 DVD-R versions, which we've baught through
the SuperHappyFun website, and add the Japanese original versions for
comparison.
In addition we attach the envelope, in which the illegal DVD-R copies
were delivered. It contains the address of the illegal DVD-R factory,
which is manufacturing the replicas.
The owner of this website is
>>MY HOME ADDRESS<<
The service provider, legally responsible for the hosting of this
website is Network Solutions. Your copyright complaints can be
directed to the legal department of Network Solutions:
Service Provider: Network Solutions, LLC
Designated Agent: Linda L. Larsen
Address to Which Notification Should Be Sent:
3861 Sunrise Valley Drive, Herndon, Va 20171
Telephone Number: 1-703-668-5615
Facsimile Number: 1-703-668-5959
E-Mail: dmca@networksolutions.com
For we are not familiar with the complicated intricacies of all
Japanese associations dealing with the protection of copyright laws,
we'd like to politely ask you to hand out this letter plus the CD-ROM
list to other Japanese institutions concerned with copyright
infringements.
Yours sincerely
Dr. Naoko Kawashita
JSPS Postdoctoral Fellow
Nagoya University
406, 2-11-1 shinsei
491-0912, Ichinomiya-shi, Aichi-ken
Japan
Appendix:
1. CD-ROM with 38 pages list of copyright infringements in English and
Japanese
2. 2 DVD-Rs containing clones of Japanese DVDs
3. 2 original Japanese DVDs
4. Japanese version of this letter
For those not aware, Super Happy Fun is one of the better sites operating in the grey area of movie copyright law, distributing DVD copies of movies that are not only not available in the US, but for which no US company owns the rights. Which doesn't make it legal, per se (and please do not for a second mistake me for an expert on international copyright law; at best, I've got some good knowledge of academic fair use laws), but doesn't exactly make them the same as the guy on Times Square selling a camcorded copy of Blades of Glory, either.
Now, I'm not sure the DMCA actually allows what the guy in question is asking, but I'm also pretty sure that, as the recent Australian YouTube case proved, any DMCA threat is enough to get items removed from a site. I'm not sure of the history of the people involved (the url for Japanese New Wave now points to Super Happy Fun's site), but there's no question this is petty and malicious.
I'm not going to defend what SHF does on legal grounds, but I'll note that without them, the DVDs they sell wouldn't be easily available here. The potential to lose one of the best sources of out-of-print movies is huge.
from cinemart_temp <cinemart_temp@yahoo.com> hide details Apr 22 (14 hours ago)
reply-to super_happy_fun-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
to super_happy_fun@yahoogroups.com
date Apr 22, 2007 5:52 PM
subject [super_happy_fun] A Threat from Japanese New Wave dot com
mailed-by returns.groups.yahoo.com
Got this nice letter today from the guy that used to run
JapanesNewWave.com, charlie trax.
>>Sorry, but I don't have the time for games:
Attached is the Engish version of a Japanese letter.
The letter plus CD-ROM and additional material will be in the mailbox
on Wednesday morning, if the website isn't down.<<
-----------------------------------------------
April 25, 2007
Motion Pictures Copyrights Department
JASRAC
3-6-12 Uehara
Shibuya-ku
Tokyo
151-8540 Japan
Junichi Shinsaka
Secretary General
Motion Picture Producers Association of Japan, Inc.
Takeshi Inagaki
Secretary General
Association of All Japan TV Program Production Companies (ATP)
Dear Sirs,
We would like to direct your attention to this US-American website,
where the most severe copyright infringements concerning virtually
every Japanese DVD production company takes place.
http://www.superhappyfun.com
Attached is a CD-ROM which contains a list of 338 titles which are
protected under Japanese copyright laws, cloned copies of which are
illegally sold through the above mentioned website. Every entry in
this list provides two links, one leading to the US website' s entry
of the title, and the other to the Japanese original DVD as it is sold
in Japan.
As an evidence, that these titles are illegal DVD-R clones of Japanese
original DVDs, we attach 2 DVD-R versions, which we've baught through
the SuperHappyFun website, and add the Japanese original versions for
comparison.
In addition we attach the envelope, in which the illegal DVD-R copies
were delivered. It contains the address of the illegal DVD-R factory,
which is manufacturing the replicas.
The owner of this website is
>>MY HOME ADDRESS<<
The service provider, legally responsible for the hosting of this
website is Network Solutions. Your copyright complaints can be
directed to the legal department of Network Solutions:
Service Provider: Network Solutions, LLC
Designated Agent: Linda L. Larsen
Address to Which Notification Should Be Sent:
3861 Sunrise Valley Drive, Herndon, Va 20171
Telephone Number: 1-703-668-5615
Facsimile Number: 1-703-668-5959
E-Mail: dmca@networksolutions.com
For we are not familiar with the complicated intricacies of all
Japanese associations dealing with the protection of copyright laws,
we'd like to politely ask you to hand out this letter plus the CD-ROM
list to other Japanese institutions concerned with copyright
infringements.
Yours sincerely
Dr. Naoko Kawashita
JSPS Postdoctoral Fellow
Nagoya University
406, 2-11-1 shinsei
491-0912, Ichinomiya-shi, Aichi-ken
Japan
Appendix:
1. CD-ROM with 38 pages list of copyright infringements in English and
Japanese
2. 2 DVD-Rs containing clones of Japanese DVDs
3. 2 original Japanese DVDs
4. Japanese version of this letter
For those not aware, Super Happy Fun is one of the better sites operating in the grey area of movie copyright law, distributing DVD copies of movies that are not only not available in the US, but for which no US company owns the rights. Which doesn't make it legal, per se (and please do not for a second mistake me for an expert on international copyright law; at best, I've got some good knowledge of academic fair use laws), but doesn't exactly make them the same as the guy on Times Square selling a camcorded copy of Blades of Glory, either.
Now, I'm not sure the DMCA actually allows what the guy in question is asking, but I'm also pretty sure that, as the recent Australian YouTube case proved, any DMCA threat is enough to get items removed from a site. I'm not sure of the history of the people involved (the url for Japanese New Wave now points to Super Happy Fun's site), but there's no question this is petty and malicious.
I'm not going to defend what SHF does on legal grounds, but I'll note that without them, the DVDs they sell wouldn't be easily available here. The potential to lose one of the best sources of out-of-print movies is huge.
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Date: 2007-04-23 12:47 pm (UTC)I think partly it's that they deal a lot of foreign stuff that is legitimately available if you've got an all-region, all-code player. (Which isn't expensive at all these days.) Other companies do flicks that haven't been released anywhere else.
SHF is also the only such site I can think of that has a password-protected area where they sell the stuff that might really get them in deep shit, like the pre-Special Edition versions of the Star Wars OT (before Lucas finally consented to put them out legitimately last winter).
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Date: 2007-04-23 01:19 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-23 04:34 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-23 04:23 pm (UTC)I can see that '... are believed not to be commercially available in the US at the moment' might be true, but they're still selling other people's stuff without permission.
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Date: 2007-04-23 04:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-23 05:22 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-23 08:29 pm (UTC)The Hollywood studios need to be reminded that they were founded on piracy (both of Edison's patents and of 'foreign' intellectual property) more often.
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Date: 2007-04-23 05:48 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-23 06:47 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-23 05:28 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-23 05:46 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-23 08:32 pm (UTC)Selling grey imports - fine, even Amazon does it.
Selling pirated copies, with the excuse that no-one's selling the real things - not fine.
I'm amazed they've lasted this long, to be honest.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-23 10:27 pm (UTC)The other thing is that these websites can't possibly be making crazy money at this. How many people are gonna order Gimme Gimme Octopus? And increasingly they're not doing business through PayPal because they don't want to have to answer uncomfortable questions.
If you're patient enough, everything shows up on legit DVD eventually anyway. I've found that out the hard way in my bootleg-buying adventures.
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Date: 2007-04-23 11:10 pm (UTC)*sigh* I can only hope. If anything deserves a special edition, it's the complete run of Supertrain.