Well, sure.

[yendi]

So, amidst the circle-jerk known as the SFF.net public* "SFWA" forums, there's this brilliant comment: "I had the thought yesterday that the current crop of blogosphere denizens would absolutely LOATH Marion Zimmer Bradley"

Gee, I can't fucking imagine any good reason to do so. TW for abuse stuff at that second link.

*The same public forums from which people get quoted and then get all upset and make funny threats.

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[haikujaguar.livejournal.com]

*can't make heads or tails of that*

Is that stuff true? Or not true? I can't tell, and find I don't really care. :P

I will say, though, reading the thread on sff.net, that I had a powerful moment of recognition reading the part about 'have you ever been the wrong sort of feminist/woman.'

I've been that person, and it is awful. And yes, the prejudice against the 'wrong sort of feminists' is very much real. :/

[shadesong.livejournal.com]

It is true. :(

[haikujaguar.livejournal.com]

Wait, for serious? 8O

[juliansinger.livejournal.com]

For serious, yes.

The "wrong sort of feminist" stuff is another issue entirely, and one that many people had regarding MZB and a few other folks.

But the pedophilic protecting was very much there and true.

[haikujaguar.livejournal.com]

I... am... very much glad that I wasn't a fan of her work, because finding this out would have been shattering. o_o

[yendi]

*nod* Ditto.

[vschanoes.livejournal.com]

Not only protecting, either. Her son and daughter have both stated that she molested them.

[haikujaguar.livejournal.com]

O_O


*covers self with blanket*

I need cookies. :P

[vschanoes.livejournal.com]

I know. I'm sorry. It hit me really hard too when I found out. I had loved her work when I was a young reader, and now when I think of her...well. You know.

[polymexina.livejournal.com]

I'm with you there. :-/

[jorrocks-j.livejournal.com]

Did she and Woody Allen ever get together and go bowling?

'Cause they totally shoulda.


(I can see it now: their long-lost collaboration, Neurotic Hypochondriacs of Darkover)

[juliansinger.livejournal.com]

...OK, that I didn't know. And now I get to feel betrayed all over again, huzzah. (But it's better than dismissing it, at least.)

[vschanoes.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry. It's discussed in the depositions that are online. The whole thing is horrible.

[juliansinger.livejournal.com]

Heh. Not /your/ fault. Hers, all the way.

(There was a lot of material on Goldin's webpage, so while I read some of the excerpts, I never did read everything.)

[vschanoes.livejournal.com]

What's with the conditional there? I do loathe MZB.

[yendi]

Ditto. But the folks on that forum are special people.

[raidingparty.livejournal.com]

I'm having a weird time finding how this intersects with economy. Talent and money tend to be overlapping scales (if marketed well), but should not be congruent because of the supporting-evil argument. Of course, with her death, buying her books no longer benefits her.

Also kind of moot, because I have so many books in my to-read pile I don't expect to buy any new ones for years (unless half of them are so bad I stop after the first chapter).