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With ten days left until Halloween, the official countdown can begin. TV channels will finally start showing horror-themed content, more horror movies will get aired than in any other ten days during the year, and, if we're really lucky, there will be a very special episode of Everybody Love Raymond in which the entire cast gets dismembered.

Okay, two out of three ain't bad.

The point is, for horror fans, this is like the Twelve Days of Christmas, only with more beheadings.

So I figure I'll ramble about horror flicks a little bit each day.

Today's topic: The worst post-Hammer film adaptation of a good horror novel.

And if your answer isn't Relic, justify it.

Seriously, I can't remember any adaptation (including Vampire$) that I anticipated so much, and which sucked so badly on the screen. The book was damned good, bordering on great, and the movie was an almost deliberately bad piece of shit.

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Date: 2003-10-21 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shawnj.livejournal.com
Queen of the Damned. I keep telling myself that it was intentionally bad.

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Date: 2003-10-21 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nihilistic-kid.livejournal.com
Yes, but it also manages to me a million times worse than even that crappy novel!

And in a surprising and different way!

I'm thinking that straight-to-DVD version of Clegg's Bad Karma, which fails to hold together even as a basic exercise in filmmaking, is worse than either Queen or Relic though.

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Date: 2003-10-21 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shawnj.livejournal.com
If you take the namesake, yeah. The novel Queen of the Damned was pretty terrible. But I enjoyed The Vampire Lestat, which is where most of the movie comes from.

Also, what would you call post-Hammer? Would Omega Man count?

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Date: 2003-10-21 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dindin.livejournal.com
and, if we're really lucky, there will be a very special episode of Everybody Love Raymond in which the entire cast gets dismembered.

Hear hear! I liked that show for about a minute. Now I really don't understand why people like it.

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Date: 2003-10-21 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dindin.livejournal.com
Oh, and the tv adaptation of almost any Stephen King novel, but particularly It and The Shining.

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Date: 2003-10-21 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dindin.livejournal.com
I loved the book It. I just felt the movie missed almost all of the layering and subtext in the book and turned into a "scary movie".

I never saw MO or Tommyknockers.

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Date: 2003-10-21 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shawnj.livejournal.com
It's nice, reinforcing, male-bashing entertainment. What's not to like about it?

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Date: 2003-10-21 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dindin.livejournal.com
Male-bashing? It's everyone bashing! I guess most of America is so freaking miserable in their own lives that the enjoy watching other people be miserable? *shrug*

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Date: 2003-10-21 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dindin.livejournal.com
I used to like Married with Children in small doses. I find ELR more hateful for some reason, maybe because they at least purport to be a normal family - no one could accuse the Bundys of that.

Hammer films! yay!

Date: 2003-10-21 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iresprite.livejournal.com
I just bought a Hammer film on DVD for $5 while I was in Maine. The premise is that there is a vampire out there who drains people's youth instead of their blood. The main character is brought in, and the back of the box seemed to think that it was extremely important to add that they create a sword made from a cross. It seems to me that if you need to describe how cool a weapon is as a blurb, the movie's going to have a whole lot of cheese to it. I can't wait to watch it.

Incidentally, I was psyched about Vampire$ coming out, and then groaned in pain at the increasingly bad movie as I watched it. If I recall correctly, they made a sequel to it, as well. Hoo boy.

Re: Hammer films! yay!

Date: 2003-10-21 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shawnj.livejournal.com
The sequel wasn't all that bad, actually.

*hides head in shame*

Re: Hammer films! yay!

Date: 2003-10-21 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iresprite.livejournal.com
As for Vampire$, they didn't just make a sequel. They made a sequel starring Jon Bon Jovi.

*shudders*

Re: Hammer films! yay!

Date: 2003-10-21 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piratejenny.livejournal.com
Wow, I totally missed that. Thank god.

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Date: 2003-10-21 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ocean-song.livejournal.com
Would EvilSpeak count? I dont know what constitutes post-Hammer, as I deliberately DONT watch horror movies. But it was certainly the worst modern day one I've seen. I would add Return of the Living Dead, but I think it was *intended* to be more high camp than horror, so that's a whole different kettle of fish.

Mostly I just wanted to show you that I do still read here now and then, and show some Yendi-love!
*MWAH*

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Date: 2003-10-21 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alladinsane.livejournal.com
Ah yes EvilSpeak...featuring Clint "Thank Almighty God for my brother Ron so I still have a career" Howard...

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Date: 2003-10-21 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justanotherg33k.livejournal.com
I'm not sure if this really counts as so-called horror or if this is actually so-called suspense. The Blair Witch Project is the single most overrated excuse for a movie that I ever wasted two hours of my life on. I've seen worse movies, but i've seen them expecting to see a bad movie. I actually had high expectations for The Blair Witch Project, and it completely failed to deliver. Unfortunately (fortunately?) I haven't seen Relic, so I can't make an informed comment on said film.

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Date: 2003-10-21 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shawnj.livejournal.com
Unless of course you count The Last Broadcast.

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Date: 2003-10-21 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toratigris.livejournal.com
The point is, for horror fans, this is like the Twelve Days of Christmas, only with more beheadings.

That made me laugh out loud. I'm not a huge horror movie fan, so I can't discuss the relative quality (or lack thereof), but I'll have to check the TV listings and see if there are any movies on I'd like to see...

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Date: 2003-10-21 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albumlady.livejournal.com
Here it goes, confession time. You're now probably going to think I'm the saddest sack in the world. I'm absolutely TERRIFIED of horror films. When I was about 12 my best friend and I wanted to stay up late and watch a scary movie. The movie we unfortunately chose was "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane" with Bette Davis, in black and white.

I blushingly confess, I had nightmares for MONTHS... I was so terrified, I didn't sleep in the dark for a very long time, and I reaaallly still hate the metal domes they use as plate covers in hotels!

I watched Silence of the Lambs which I actually enjoyed. However, anything Jason, Kruger, Friday the 13th, Hack and chop, blood and guts, absolutely freaks me out.

Just when I thought I had recovered, my husband dragged me to the movie SEVEN... I was four months pregnant. BAD CHOICE! So... if you have a suggestion to horror that will make me laugh, and get me over this, let me know... Otherwise, I'm afraid I'm just going to be chicken-poop for the rest of my life!
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Date: 2003-10-21 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olliesmama.livejournal.com
It's a toss up for me:
Manhunter: Which I love simply because it has William Petersen in it, but is still an awful, awful movie but a terrifying book, or;

Sleepy Hollow: Which I also loved but was inanely cheesy. Great special effects (got to love a bleeding tree) and casting, but...still. I groaned the entire time I watched it, and not in a good way. (Oh! I'm talking about the version with Johnny Depp, Christopher Walken and Christina Ricci.)

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Date: 2003-10-21 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olliesmama.livejournal.com
I forgot to clarify: Manhunter was the movie title of the book "Red Dragon" by Thomas Harris....wayyyy before "Silence of the Lambs" came out.

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Date: 2003-10-22 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olliesmama.livejournal.com
I was agreeing with you. I loved Manhunter, but let's be honest...it's not the best. And..yeah...Red Dragon sucked. I didn't have to close my eyes once. However, you know a book is scary when you hide your face while you are reading.

*grins*

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Date: 2003-10-21 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piratejenny.livejournal.com
Well, I keep hearing about how Hammer is going to be restarted, so what does really count as post-Hammer anyway?

I love Hammer movies. My first vampire/horror movie was a Hammer movie. I was 4 (same year I discovered Robin Hood with Errol Flynn, btw).

Anyway, I didn't actuallly read Relic, but as soon as I saw Penelope Ann Miller was in it, I knew it was in trouble. She's often a bad actress (although I admit to enjoying Cast a Deadly Spell). There have indeed been a lot of lame adaptations of Stephen King books, but some of those books were pretty lame (Cujo, for instance). And I like Stephen King.

So I'm not sure what gets my vote yet. Then again, I am *really* tired today (couldn't sleep worth a damn last night), so my thoughts are very jumbled (as if that isn't evident).

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Date: 2003-10-22 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piratejenny.livejournal.com
I didn't think so, though I could easily be thinking of the sequel.

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Date: 2003-10-21 08:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] phantom_wolfboy
The Unnameable

Cause they named it!

Not one of Lovecraft's better stories (more of a sustained ponder on the nature of fear) but the movie completely screwed up even that!

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Date: 2003-10-21 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] felisdemens.livejournal.com
I must speak in opposition as one raised by archaeologists... Relic sucked W's testicles. So I expected nothing and got it.

Clearly, you have not seen Brian Yuzna's Faust, based on the popular naughty horror comic. That was the worst movie EVER, bar none, based on preexisting material or not. EVER. I mean it. WORST EVER. No qualifiers. Never saw a worse horror movie, even when watching MST3k. Made Matango, Fungus of Terror look like Masterpiece Theater. I wanted to trepan myself to remove the very memory. I wanted to trepan strangers, but that's normal for me. Bad movie. Bad, bad movie.

Although Vampire$ ran a close second.

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Date: 2003-10-22 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] felisdemens.livejournal.com
No, no! You have to see it, so I will not be alone!! I swear, it is an experience not to be missed. Worst. Movie. Ever.

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Date: 2003-10-22 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sir-alf.livejournal.com
The only adapation that had really gotten me up in arms, horror wise, was Brahm Stoker's Dracula. Yep, It really stuck in my craw.

I can't say it was a completely horrible movie. It wasn't. It was beautiful to watch and some of the lighting, effects, fades, etc... pure genius.

But it was in no way the book.

They changed what read like a rape into a seduction. Overtones of sensuality were turned to softcore porn. Don't give me that crap about just showing what the author Really meant. It was offensive. They kept the scenery, changed the feel, mood, theme and ending for crying out loud, mangled characters and cast Keanu Reeves, who I do enjoy as an actor, but not as Jonathan Harker.

Thus endeth the rant.

Peace.

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