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Date: 2005-11-09 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eudaimonia.livejournal.com
Maybe that's why they got hit by a tornado? (did I just write that out loud?)

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethynyc.livejournal.com
Join me in this handbasket?

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Date: 2005-11-09 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eudaimonia.livejournal.com
Definitely!

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Date: 2005-11-09 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imortalscot.livejournal.com
*looks down at body*

You know if this is Someone's idea of an "intellegent design", Someone needs to go back to school.

Seriously.

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Date: 2005-11-09 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zitronenhai.livejournal.com
They've done this before. They can't get any dumber - they've been at rock bottom for years.

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phinnia.livejournal.com
At least they're all in one place so they're handily wiped out when the revolution hits?

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-belledame.livejournal.com
Oy. And here I live across the Susquehanna (and north a bit) from "Scopes 2" playing now in Dover PA.

Would someone PLEASE tell me how "intelligent design" is science? What else but "God" could be the "intelligence" intended? Bob? And what is so intelligent about menstruation, cancer or penguins balancing eggs on their feet? I ask you!

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyssian.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm a bit more worried about that one... and I'm always reminded - everytime I burst out about how I feel about such things - that my wife thinks evolution is "just a theory" because she wasn't taught much about it (she was schooled in public and private schools in the Lehigh Valley, PA area.)

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Date: 2005-11-09 04:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] phantom_wolfboy
But, remember, Donna, they re-defined science. Science in Kansas now does not mean what it means in the rest of the world.

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bobthegoat.livejournal.com
I love how they can do that, too.

I think I'll redefine the term 'brain dead' so that it now fits those who voted this in. Let the organ harvests commence!

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Date: 2005-11-10 04:54 am (UTC)
phantom_wolfboy: (humour)
From: [personal profile] phantom_wolfboy
I honestly don't think you need to. They've given us all the proof we need. :)

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Date: 2005-11-09 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-belledame.livejournal.com
::twitch::

However, as I've said elsewhere, we're not in Kansas any more!

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Date: 2005-11-09 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luis-mw.livejournal.com
Well, if the proponents of ID are prepared to concede it might have been the Vorlons or the spaghetti monster, or better still make a definitive statement that the "designer" is in no way to be construed as referring to any deity or god as currently accepted by major world religions...

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Date: 2005-11-09 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-belledame.livejournal.com
Heh. I've often said that if formal organized prayer is reinstated in schools, they'd better be prepared to have Wicca represented--that the US Armed Services recognizes Wicca as a religion was the basis for demanding the removal of Halloween festivities in many schools.

AAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!

Date: 2005-11-09 01:12 am (UTC)

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popfiend.livejournal.com
Also, believing in God does not mean that you can't believe in evolution.

Darwin believed in God for chrissakes!!!

oh for pete's sake

Date: 2005-11-09 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muse0fire.livejournal.com
I'm so disgusted.

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyssian.livejournal.com
Guess they missed the memo (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17162341-13762,00.html) - "The fundamentalists want to give a scientific meaning to words that had no scientific aim..."

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] texmorgan.livejournal.com
Well it could be worse: We could have a national program teaching that abstinence is the only form of safe sex and kids should wait until they're married to have sex. Wait we have that. Doh!

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethynyc.livejournal.com
I want universities and colleges, from Ivy League to the local community colleges, to send a clear message that they will *not* accept students from schools that teach ID.

That might actually have an effect, I hope.

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Date: 2005-11-09 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cieo.livejournal.com
That would be discrimination, and I'd hate to see MY Ivy League splattered in that kind of mud.
Plus, that would just be taking it out on the students, when it's really the people in charge that need to have their minds changed. I wish I had an answer to this problem. I really do.

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Date: 2005-11-09 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litch.livejournal.com
homeschooler sue UC system because they won't give credit for biology courses that use textbooks that teach creationism

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167235,00.html


"discrimination" occurs all the time in admission to higher education (see the michigan case on affirmative action), demanding your student understand elementary principles of biology is not discrimination

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethynyc.livejournal.com
I do too. I just think there should be consequences for the people pushing ID, and I honestly don't know what else might work.

I really would not want a doctor that didn't believe in a basic principle of biology.

I feel for the students, because it isn't their fault that they are being used as ping-pong balls. I don't know how to change people's minds on something like this, but if there were real solid consequences, it might have an effect on their actions.

*sigh*

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unwilly.livejournal.com
It certainly should be getting dumber, as smart people move out of the state, to avoid bullshit like this.

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Date: 2005-11-09 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunza.livejournal.com
Or don't move there in the first place.

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Date: 2005-11-09 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-descend.livejournal.com
I second what [livejournal.com profile] bethynyc said. At the very least they should make the kids take remedial science once they get to college. It's not quite as harsh a message, but it's still one that hits the pocketbook, and that gets people's attention.

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Date: 2005-11-09 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cieo.livejournal.com
I feel sorry for the kids there. I really do. Some of them are going to head out to more coastal states later on in life, and they're not going to know what hit them.

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Date: 2005-11-09 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fings.livejournal.com
"You know, De-Evolution is very real."
--Mark Mothersbaugh

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Date: 2005-11-09 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] assassingalaxia.livejournal.com
And my relatives living there wonder why my dad moved out, and why his wife and children don't visit very often.

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