Grrr.

Sep. 12th, 2003 01:00 pm
yendi: (Screwed)
[personal profile] yendi
Don't click on this link if you have any trigger issues over rape or molestation. That said, I can't not publicize this asshole judge (yes, there are assholes in judicial systems in other countries, too!).

Frankly, I would consider beating the crap out of Canadian judges named Fred Kovatch to be the epitome of a victimless crime.

Beating the crap out of him and also shoving a hardcover copy of Piers Anthony's Firefly (from which the moron obviously gets his judicial "knowledge") as far as possible into his rectum would earn bonus points.

Link found via [livejournal.com profile] mactavish.

Edit: Don't even click on the comments if you're not sure about trigger issues.

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Date: 2003-09-12 10:19 am (UTC)
ext_4500: (Default)
From: [identity profile] fortunavirilis.livejournal.com
Grrr indeed.

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Date: 2003-09-12 10:21 am (UTC)
atrophying: (Default)
From: [personal profile] atrophying
"Judge Fred Kovatch ruled on Thursday he couldn't ignore allegations the girl had been raised in an abusive home. That evidence, he said, supported the defence theory that the girl was the sexual aggressor."

WHAT??! First, how the HELL does being raised in an abusive home support the defense's theory? Secondly, even if this girl was "the sexual aggressor," she's a fuckin' 12 year old! If a grown man - much less three grown men - is sleeping with a 12 year old, he still needs to be tossed into jail.

Grr.
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Date: 2003-09-12 10:26 am (UTC)
ext_4500: (Default)
From: [identity profile] fortunavirilis.livejournal.com
See, this is why girls grown up to become women who blame themselves for the abuse! No 12 year old 'asks for it', no matter what the aggressor says. I should know. Between this and work, now I'm really pissed off today.

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Date: 2003-09-12 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bobthegoat.livejournal.com
I think he was applauding Saskatchewan (sp?) for apealing the sentence, not the Judge.

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Date: 2003-09-15 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bobthegoat.livejournal.com
The lady approves. Hail yes!

And who can complain about yours, really?

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Date: 2003-09-12 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormy-brow.livejournal.com
Okay, I think I missed something. I'm going to reread the article, as soon as the red leaves my vision.

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Date: 2003-09-12 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormy-brow.livejournal.com
At first I read it that the provence was repealing the sentence altogether, letting this guy go totally free. Then I realised that they're repealing it, so that he could get jail time.

Still, that judge was way out of line, and should be removed, IMHO.

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Date: 2003-09-12 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unwilly.livejournal.com
The judge should be removed from the case.

As for Piers he has always favored child molestation.

In Firefly and in one of the Incarnation series he had female under the age of 15 have sex, both against their will and giving "consent" to have sex. Early abuse made it OK that they had sex with adults was his argument.

In the Incarnations one the guy was a judge, who was supposed to be her guardian, and the Incarnation actually held the girl in stasis for 3 years so that she would still be 15 chronologically, but that the judge could still screw her, since "legally" she was 18.

Those two books convinced me to never buy anything from him ever again.

UN

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Date: 2003-09-12 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadesong.livejournal.com
Firefly absolutely horrified me.

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Date: 2003-09-12 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unwilly.livejournal.com
Yup. Badly written, horrible themes and pure crap.

UN

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Date: 2003-09-12 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emerald-ibis.livejournal.com
You've just effectively convinced me to avoid this guy's work for good.

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Date: 2003-09-14 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clawfoot.livejournal.com
Yeah. Firefly made my skin crawl. I try to make myself believe that that's what he was going for, but it doesn't work.

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Date: 2003-09-12 10:46 am (UTC)
kajivar: (Lady of Shalott)
From: [personal profile] kajivar
My god. Reverse that situation. Three Cree men, 12 year old white girl. Think the decision would be the same? I'm thinking lynch mobs instead. Regardless, 12 year old girl. I don't give a shit if the allegations that she was the "aggressor" have any basis of truth. Twelve.

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Date: 2003-09-12 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emerald-ibis.livejournal.com
and also shoving a hardcover copy of Piers Anthony's Firefly (from which the moron obviously gets his judicial "knowledge") as far as possible into his rectum would earn bonus points.

That's kinder than the entire list of items that a friend of mine just suggested be shoved up the cretin's rectum.

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Date: 2003-09-12 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] condign.livejournal.com
I'm not saying the judge isn't scum, but all I'd say is, you might want to read the whole opinion before threatening the judge with grevious bodily harm. I've never found a case where a byline and a 500-word article actually gave the depths of the case.

What triggers my suspicion that there's more to the case? Three men were charged but only one convicted. The use of 'an abusive home' on the part of the victim as a mitigating factor seems odd, and would have to be warranted by more than appears in the article. The article makes no statement as to what the assault actually consisted of nor what the sentence is conditional upon.

Might it be that the judge is prejudiced, racist (as one of your commentors seems to indicate), or merely ridiculous? Possibly. But I'd want to have the whole case history before me before I made that judgment. Do you seriously think this article is enough to draw the conclusions people have made above?

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Date: 2003-09-12 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terig.livejournal.com
Normally I'm a very proud Canadian, but I have to say, in one respect, I'm not. The way our judicial system is structured to deal with child rapists and those woh commit other crimes against women and children that do not result in death is appalling. I won't go into the dettails, but children especially have little voice in the judical system if they survive their encounteres.

And it's even worse if one is aboriginal.

Saskatchewan is known for it's racist attitudes towards aboriginals. The fact that likely three white men got away with raping a 12 year old Cree child is disgusting but hardly surprising.

The fact that these assholes gave her alcohol in the first place should have landed them in jail. The rape should have made them stay in it longer.

I'm ashamed of being Canadian on that front. Totally so. There's a special place in hell for those three men and the judge and if indeed the girl has been molested by her father, well, he should be joining them too.

And this isn't the first time a judge has done this to a minor.

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Date: 2003-09-13 07:17 pm (UTC)
phantom_wolfboy: (Monster)
From: [personal profile] phantom_wolfboy
OH, no, we're very good at abusing the aboriginals. Have you read Spirits in the Wires yet? There's a quickly-tossed-off reference to one of our Ontario abuses in that one.

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